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the obama campaign is saying and what the romney campaign is not. >> a favorite talking point of the obama campaign is mitt romney's economic proposals would simply reinstate the tax cut and deregulation policy that led to the 2008 financial meltdown. two things should be said about this claim. one is it's gone unanswered by the romney camp and the second is it's utterly invalid. the tax cut put in place under president bush in 2001 and 2003 cannot be blamed for the mortgage market collapse that triggered the great recession. in fact, they can be credited with helping the economy out of the recession of 2001, 2002, and with helping overcome the economic damage from hurricane katrina. by the way, that expansion, and the tax revenue it produced were sufficient to drive down the federal budget deficit for 2005 through 2007. this despite massive war spending. as for deregulation, president obama himself said former president bush put more regulations in place than he has at the same time frame. it is true that there is one bit of deregulation regularly blamed by the liberal economists for help
romney leads 49, 48, another tie in the margin of error. with the country still talking about mitt romney's victory the democratic party has decided to go into full attack mode. the strategy seems to be very simple. call mitt romney a liar. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean if he was talking -- if he was speaking last night, he was lying. >> look, mitt romney had a good night but, you know, even, you know, a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. one good night is not going to erase a year of mitt romney's extreme positions. >> bill: that was pretty vicious, was it not? does the dnc really believe that kind of rhetoric will help the president? does it believe independent voters respond positively to that? i don't think they will. in the realm of politics often misleading statements. "time" magazine story this week runs down statements by both campaigns that are either false or outright propaganda. so for the democrats to call mitt romney a liar is foolish and destructive to their guy, president obama, because the obama campai
talked about his five boys, that was racist because it was romney suddenly calling obama boy. >> sean: how desperate are they? they seem they're freaking out, panic and desperate? >> they are. let's understand something, as every day comes in, the polls get worse, we go from dishonest -- we started with untruthful, now dishonest, and now lying. god knows what it will be by the end of this week. the point is -- let me just say this. this is the biggest debate victory probably since 1980. >> sean: it is. >> in terms of a single debate, in terms of the margin but more importantly what it did for romney was, the number of people it gave them a chance to see. the problem with the lying strategy, the people that watch "60 minutes," within five days they would have put up ads promoting their debate victory. the fact is it was big. it helped romney a lot. we went from 30%, almost doubling the 53% among uncommitted voters that he cared about people, his favorability -- i've been waiting for more polls. we finally got pew. some of the polls are slow on this. the thing i find is the election is
, john? >> reporter: good morning. governor romney will be talking agriculture today. not surprisingly we're on a 700 acre farm owned by the cook family. a lot of soybeans and corn here. we're in madison county. governor romney won this in the caucuses by the way. he will argue the president's policies things like estate taxes, climate change, environmental regulations, energy policy are hurting farmers. he continues to go after the president on issue of jobs of the even though the unemployment number is down below the psych lodge call level at 8% on the stump in newport news, governor romney found a new way to use it. >> if you look back 60 years, at all the months we had unemployment before 8% before president obama. there were 39 months. in all 60 years with unemployment above 8%. under this president there have been 43 months. under one president alone. he does not understand what it takes to create a real recovery. i do. >> reporter: bill you mentioned the pew poll. the pew poll governor romney was seen as guy with new ideas. he was the one people trust to create jobs. bill: one of t
and steady commander-in-chief. mitt romney shows he would be the exact opposite. behind the tough talk he is erratic and unsteady and irresponsible on his audition in the world stage. would you agree with that. >> of course not. they can say over and over again. especially when romney talks about not setting a time limit. >> brian: let me bring you to afghanistan real quick before we run out of time. a reporter came out in a speech in washington and said the administration has been lying and there is a narrative coming out of the washington that is nonsense. she got out of afghanistan like you d and she said the taliban is gaining strength and we are not told the truth. that is a farrah phrase for word and that is her position. is it yours. >> the taliban is gaining strength and there is a narrative from administration. i want the narrative to be progress in afghanistan especially with all . sacrifice and surge and the guys who fought. but the political solution hasn't moved. karzai's government is corrupt and the taliban is gaining strength. it is not a pretty picture what of the world i
talked about this a lot. look at this. romney, ahead now in florida, north carolina, ohio and virginia. >> not ohio. >> ohio is down by one. >> he was so far behind. >> what we are seeing, in florida, which is a republican-leaning state if the race is tied, governor romney has a slight advantage. north carolina, he should win, as well. ohio is the key. all the swing states, including virginia, can go to governor romney but unless he wins ohio, he cannot win the election. ohio is now close to deadlocked. >>gregg: governor romney was down double digit. >> he was down in ohio, certainly. i don't know about double digits. notice news organization which spent all the money doing the state polls, we have not had one poll since the debate talking about the effect, favorability and other things. i will say this: one of the things that has happened, the race has the disconnect -- romney should you'd this, the $200 million or more spent making him into an eager and the president never made the charges. i would be out there torpedoing obama's add very advertising, why won't he say it himself? >>
mitt romney is and was last night. i mean, if he was talking, he was speaking last night, he was lying. and look, mitt romney had a good night, but you know, even a, you know, blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. >> are these dirty attacks, calling mitt romney a liar. is it a good idea for the democrats. we're back with our panel. brian some suggest this is classless to come and attack mitt romney for lying when the president didn't seen prepared and shell shocked and that's the response. he was so shell shocked that mitt romney was lying that he didn't know how to respond. >> and mitt romney's facts were tricky, we don't have time for that. let's include john sununu, romney's surrogate who said that obama is lazy, incompetent. has no idea what's going on. on both sides comments being made and let's not make this one-sided when you're talking about it. >> clayton: is that fair, tammy? >> americans and i think the tea party is a good example of this want to be told the truth. we have impressions of these guys and americans are going to make up their own mind and we know that p
of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean, if he was talking, if he was speaking last night, he was lying. look, mitt romney had a good night, but, you know, even, you know, a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. >> it's the old classic a broken clock is right twice a day. >> so the argument is that president obama was so shell-shocked, i guess he got up there on the podium he was so shell shocked he couldn't believe the lies coming from mitt romney he didn't know how to respond for two hours. >> that's ridiculous. >> don't you think the voters would prefer the president's team to say you know what? he had an off night. he overprepared. underprepared too busy being president. mitt romney a liar that's the best you can do. >> maybe mitt romney did really well. congratulations to you. i can't wait to get to october 16th when we can try this again. >> you thought so much of the primary season mitt romney was running to the right of the party saying he was severely conservative all of these things he was saying to say how conservative he was. he
for the terror attack? congressional hearing is set for tomorrow. we will talk about this, breaking news, ambassador john bolton in just a minute. but first, president obama -- well, he might need strong medicine because governor mitt romney's growing lead might make him sick. the romney campaign is surging in the battleground states. now, as governor romney is soaring to a political rock star status, another rock star is ark pol ising for the president. >> this is a little difficult to -- to put myself in this position, knowing that i may alien eight a few fans. i am very proud to say that we have have elected our first black president. i am sorry he didn't do a better job. >> a gallup poll shows governor romney with a 2-point edge. >> the days after the debate, the groundswell of romney winning is bigger. i think that gap is going to widen. >> obama's been on defense the last week. >> woo vepolling data now... that shows that romney is ahead, wherever he is ahead. i think he has been ahead for months or weeks. i don't think it happened overnight. but they are all saying romney is surgi
republicans. mitt romney is a strong leader who stood up and talked against the talking point, one of the favorite ones that steve israel has, how republicans want to sendions overseas. mitt romney said i have been in business 40 years, vinever seen a tax advantage. that's an advantage to us when you have experience at the top of the ticket of building jobs, jobs creation and a chance to turn this country around. i believe in paul ryan and mitt romney. and i think steve israel will find out that republicans hold the house quite soundly, defeating democrats. >> shannon: we will find out, one month from today. thank you for your time today. >> you bet. >> reporter: >> shannon: pastors across the country are sounding off on moral, social and political issues today, part of pulpit freedom sunday. it could be coming to a church near you. we will talk about it and wais at stake, right after the break. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. s
before it is for voters to know. we would be talking about mitt romney's loose interpretation of the facts regardless of what the people thought of the pet's performance. his own campaign walked back what romney said about covering people with preexisting conditions in the healthcare plan. >> marjorie wasn't the president lying when he repeatedly said mitt romney would raise taxes five trillion dollars. it will not be near five trillion wasn't that a lie. >> no it is not a lie because romney will not talk about the loop holes. he refuses to walk through the math. paul ryan said i don't have time to deal with that. and voters want the facts and they don't want the spin and verse, they want somebody to show up and walk them through the math. you can see him take a variety of the positions and you don't see paul ryan do it. >> you are following the talking points. that they are big fact liar: amelia don't you think that accounts back fire with the president. he's been so likeable . that could take a tollwith the gutter ball. >> the republicans went through seven stages of grief.
to anywhere. >> romney done that to obama. why are we only talking about one side? romney basically called obama on a liar. when he calls on the continuing fb bringcations he is how he is hurt. he flip-flopped on abortion yesterday. what does he stand for? martha: but here he is, to my mind, this is a great, wonderful thing about debates. and particularly in many ways i think the format we saw the other night which was, somewhat unusual format which really allowed them to talk about who they were. what you were seeing up there in many ways, was not the campaigns. i mean you saw the two men. and they had a chance to go at it. >> that's the point. martha: they had a chance to encounter each other when called on it. so it is difficult to say anyway anybody was portrayed in a way that was unfair. >> obama didn't call him a liar during the debate. a lot of people wish he did. he didn't go after romney on some of the prevarications. martha: do you think it would be a good idea. >> i wouldn't use word liar. his feet have to be held to the fire. if you want to make numbers work, what loopholes wil
of these debates, the first debate with the president, he talked for 37 minutes, governor romney and told 28 myths. >> eric: running out of time. last word, cal. >> well, if you're look for honesty in politics, it's like looking for a virgin at a house of ill repute. you got plenty of lies on both sides. you got fundraising all over the place. i like to say i'm from washington, d.c. originally where the only politicians with convictions are in prison. >> that's one thing we have in common. i'm from dc, too. >> eric: we'll wait for tuesday night. thank you both. arthel? >> arthel: that was very entertaining. okay. american made -- very good, too. cal had good lines there. american made products, american made products regaining footing overseas. but after suffering the greatest recession since world war two, is the world ready to let down its guard? he he >> eric: they fought for freedom overseas. now they have a new mission here at home. nearly every member of newark, new jersey's latest class of firefighters is a military vet. that's a first there. since world war ii. anna kooiman is live with th
romney did tonight when he talked to this crowd of 13,000 people. that's what he did in the debate on wednesday. it's when he will do at the next debate. that means, i think we're going to win. it is going to be close. it always is. we're a swing state. but ultimately, this is about jobs and the economy and who has the better plan. there is no question that mitt romney's plans are going to be better for ohio, working families. that's why we are going to win this thing. >> the last time i looked, ohio had a lower unemployment rate than the national average. i thought that would help the president. is ohio's unemployment level below the national level? is -- can't the president take a bow for that? >> it is. it is a little lower than the national average, about a point below. but still people in ohio don't feel like the economy's doing well. if you add the people who stopped looking for work twould be almost 10%. that's not acceptable. that's not acceptable. so if you look at if we are going in the right direction, we reflect the nation. we think we are on the wrong track because we
seems to be romney's favor. >> let's talk specifically about battleground states, wisconsin, pennsylvania, new hampshire and michigan were all leading in obama and now considered toss-ups. let's start with wisconsin. what is happening there? >> all those four states as you said were switched by real clear politics. in wisconsin that is where paul ryan is from, mitt romney's running mate. that is only a 2-point race in wisconsin. you have to remember, this is state where back in june there was recall election against scott walker. he won the race. he demoralized the democrats. a lot of activists were saying because president obama didn't come strong in favor of the democratic candidate, it demoralized a lot of democrats there. turnout could be very important. if the democratic turnout is not high, you might see mitt romney win that state. >> patti ann: meanwhile, florida where he is romney is enjoying a 2% advantage. we have david plouffe saying, we are going to get the senior citizens and hispanics. we are going to get florida? >> it's a crucial state for romney to win, one
tonight. mitt romney versus the kids. that is the sum of this evening's talking points memo. what i am about to tell you is very hard to believe, but every word of it's true. yesterday mitt romney was campaigning in virginia when he saw a group of children we'ving at him from the side of the road. the governor ordered his caravan to stop so he could greet the kids and talk with them, a nice thing to do. here is the photo the associated press took at the meet and greet. a foolish shot that makes romney the butt of stupid jokes. pardon the pun. the picture was taken by photographer evan vucci and never been published. the governor doesn't know there is a child behind him. this is a cheap shot, literally. accompanying the photograph was an article by a.p. reporter lynn elber that chided him for not participate not guilty a nickelodeon special called kids pick the president. a program will be hosted by linda ellerby, a committed leftist and president obama has agreed to appear on it. governor says he passed because the scheduling, but he well knows that she and her crew are devoted obama s
the president and governor romney on russia we want to talk more where we're going. here is how the candidates talk about russia if you will. we're going to roll some sound. >> but he is eager to give russia's president putin the flexibility he desires after the election. [booing] under my administration our friend will see more loyalty and mr. putin will see a little less flexibility and more backbone. >> after all you don't call russia our number one enemy, not al qaeda, russia, unless you're still stuck in a cold war mind warp. [applause] jenna: so two very different perspectives. how should a new administration, whoever has it, engage russia in the next coming years? >> well, first of all you can't help but note both the candidates were pretty good at attack the other for probably the most inelegant and inopportune thing either one said on the subject. at one time governor romney did exaggerate calling russia our number one geostrategic foe. i don't see the argument for that. i also think president obama made the mistake with that open mic mistake back in korea earlier this year when he di
of what he and mitt romney have run on just like romney did last week. carl cameron is traveling with the governor. he just wrapped autopsy rally in ohio. good evening to you. he was talking today about his position on abortion. how did that come up, carl? >> yesterday when we were in ohio, governor romney was asked by one register to talk about his abortion position and he said he didn't know of any legislation that might come up that would affect his agenda. that caused an instant slam from the obama campaign who suggested romney was changing his position. back in 2005, he was pro-choice prior to that and became pro-life. today on the campaign trail here in ohio, mr. romney was asked again to clarify and this is kind of hard to hear. it was a very crowded restaurant in delaware, ohio. here is what he said. >> i think i said time and again, i'm a pro-life candidate. i'll be a pro-life president. the actions i'll take immediately are to remove funding for planned parenthood, will not be part of my budget. and also i've indicated i'll reverse the mexico city position of theeinstat
presidential election, but is still a massive amount of money, last night, talking to the romney campaign and the big fund-raising dollars the obama campaign was putting up, romney staffers smiled as if to suggest they might top it. >> arthel: and also a statement, romney pushing his tax policy, this weekend, right? >> reporter: of course in the wake of the debate in which the romney campaign it really defined the race, a choice between a dependency society with rising taxes that could hurt the recovery, versus the romney agenda which could cut taxes and rely fully on a smaller government and individual responsibility and entrepreneurial spirit and the romney campaign is attacking ever harder. here's a sample from last night. >> it has been calculated his tax plan raising taxes will cost 700,000 jobs. i will not raise taxes on small business and not raise taxes on middle income families. >> reporter: he will spend a little more time in florida and campaign here tomorrow and he has been doing a bit of debate prep with robhe senator from ohio and his debate sparring... playing the role of m
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. president obama has been there nine times, governor romney 11 times since april. let's talk about it with joe varden a political reporter for the "columbus dispatch." we talked to him exactly one month ago, what has chained in that month, joe? >> well, what's changed here is what's changed everywhere in the country. last wednesday, what went on on the stage in denver has shaken up the race. things are tied here. there is no other way to put it. it's neck-and-neck in ohio. as you see behind me governor romney and one of his surrogates governor chris tear talking now, we are in mount vernon. the romney campaign has set up shop here and they will be here virtually through election today. they know they need to have ohio and after last wednesday it looks like they have a chance here. jon: the polls would indicate that. a lot of people seem to have changed their minds just based on that debate. >> absolutely. i mean, you know, 67 million people watched it. it was a governor romney that really we haven't seen before. i mean, you know, i along with so many people who cover him on a daily
. she is pro-big bird. mitt romney was talking yesterday he is against government subsidizing public broadcasting. here they both are. >> we believe in keeping our priorities straight. we all know good ask well that cutting sesame street is no way to balance the budget. >> food stamps, when the president took office, 32 million people on food stamps. now there are 47 million people on food stamps. these are tough times with real serious issues. so you have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving big bird. [ laughter ] >> steve: he's right. >> brian: what an insult to the american people to think we're that stupid, we need a childhood character to drive home the fact that we're voting in november? >> gretchen: exactly. and that that would even be an admission that to keep it simple, stupid, is going to attract more people to your side. >> brian: keep it simple, you are stupid. >> gretchen: i mean, my goodness. again, i'm heartened by how many millions of people watched the debates and i hope just as many watch tomorrow night. the number of men
? >> mitt romney very subtly used the buried one. it was just perfect. he was talking about how bad the economy and was the middle class has taken it particularly heard hard, they have been burr buried. president obama gave a nod, he knew what had happened. it was a subtle use. >> greta: how important do you think the vice-presidential debate is? >> i continuing it will be important for the week, in that is -- it is the only show in town. there is no other presidential debate. so for the next week, it will be vitally important, it's the only show in town. people will be watching it. in the end, i don't think it's going to play much. i don't think there is a history of presidential debates, let alone, vice-presidential debates. >> greta: paying attention to the heart beat. >> i tend to agree but i do think have you early voting and people are voting every day. so whether or not, you know, it's all about the momentum at this point. moment's changing on a daily basis from, debate to jobs numbers. this is the next big thing. if you are losing the next big thing, you are losing that day,
to the end of the debate. you and i talked about the fact that mitt romney took it to the president of the united states and stayed on offense. for two weeks before that mitt romney was on defense from the media and from barack obama. now obama has been on defense for the last week. you see the poll are the showing him going down, not going up. the one who can stay on offense ultimately sometimes will go out and win the battle, win the war. but it's like watching the tennis matches in new york, the u.s. open, back and forth. then november 7, that morning we'll find out who won. megyn: the consternation by some on the left who said this election was gone and it was a foregone conclusion that barack obama was going to win a second term, michael, you can see it in the publications coming out today how forlorn they are about the shift in polling. nobody is saying mitt romney has it sewn but this is a tight race. >> i was walking past a news expand in an airport yesterday and saw the cover of news week magazine. "is barack obama the democrat's reagan?" you have got to be kidding. the rea
: that heightens the pressure on mitt romney for the second debate? >>guest: when you talk about unprecedented, this first debate was an inflection point. what made it amazing from statistics you see fluctuation in polling data when the undecided is high like in the presidential primary. you have undecided at 20 percent or 25 percent and people do not know the candidates yet. here the undecided was seven. in high single digits. so you saw a big swing not only in some of the swing states but in the national polls, a dramatic swing, with a low undecided. that is what makes this an unprecedented move. >>neil: it must speak to the possibility, the possibility, that the president's support or a good many other supporters are not as strong or in his column as he thinks. given an appealing alternate they could and indeed will switch. what do you think? >>guest: that is the key. an aping alternate. right now, the national voter pie has, the approval rating of president obama at 47 percent or 48 percent is close enough to make a difference especially in the key states. what mitt romney has done is he h
? an obama/biden victory. >> we will talk about the debate from last night. you want to know what we are still talking about? benghazi? if you ask the obama campaign manager, stephanie cutter, she thinks it's because mitt romney is making it an issue. it has nothing to do with the fact they lied to us. can somebody remind her four americans are dead? their families have no answers in and her comments are insane and ridiculous. and ridiculous. she is almost biden-lik [ male announcer ] in a world where breakfast has become boring and steless... only one man can save the day. kellogg's crunchy nut! ♪ sweet and nutty crunchy nut! [ male announcer ] honey sweet flakes with nuts in every bite. it's super delicious. [ male announcer ] honey sweet flakes with nuts in every bite. sometimes life can be well, a little uncomfortable. but when it's hard or hurts to go to the bathroom, there's dulcolax stool softener. dulcolax stool softener doesn't make you go, it just makes it easier to go. dulcolax stool softener. make yourself comfortable. hahahaha! hooohooo, hahaha! this is awesome! folks
will talk about the debate from last night. you want to know what we are still talking about? benghazi? if you ask the obama campaign manager, stephanie cutter, she thinks it's because mitt romney is making it an issue. it has nothing to do with the fact they lied to us. can somebody remind her four americans are dead? their families have no answers in and her comments are insane and ridiculous. she is almost biden-lik >> sean: welcome back to "hannity." time for media mash, the ways that the mainstream media tries to spin the liberal news. brent bozel is here. i don't think it gets any worse than a debate moderator that let's see -- goes barack obama, goes to her wedding. paul ryan should learn. go to the wedding of any reporter that will moderate a debate. let's show how many times she interrupts paul ryan when he is about to make a great point of the timing was amazing. >> that means successful -- >> no specifics. >> what we are saying, lower tax rate, 20 percent, start with the wealthy -- >> you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have verified that this math adds up. >
friends at "says me street," would be talked about so were. you need that state if you are romney? >>guest: you do. it is 18 electoral votes and there is no other way he can get to 270 needed to win without ohio. very important state. that is why he has three events there tomorrow. >>shepard: real clear politics does an average of all the polls. there has been a lot made about polls recently and the enormous swing especially coming to women, but what is the thinking of you folks at real clear politics? >>guest: the debate helped mitt romney. what is important to note, two weeks ago mitt romney did a big three-stop tour of ohio for several days and that didn't move the polls in his direction in ohio. after the debate, he might now have some new traction. without trying to get a change in the direction of the polls in ohio he will have trouble. they want to build off of this traction they have from the debate and move it forward in ohio. >>shepard: there is another big debate, the day after tomorrow, the vice presidential debate. what kind of impact could that have given who the candidates a
money, how does it work? explain that. >>guest: those details are talked about. >> stimulating the economy, the president has not laid out his plan and they are saying, why doesn't governor romney lay out his plan. he has done it over and over and over again. >> he talked about cutting big bird. >> i would rather be on the side of momentum. >> if you are driving across the country and you say you will do it in 15 years can you not do that unless you speed. that is what mitt romney is saying. >>shepard: they both say they will fix this but neither has told us how. it stands to reason that the american people would go, you should tell us how but they are not going to. >>guest: i think we will hear it from the vice president. >> i would love to hear the details. >>shepard: all right guys, john, john, everyone is john today. we will be in kentucky tomorrow. i will miss the fox report tonight because we have to fly. we will be there for the stuff tomorrow and i will post it on the broadcast network, and bret baier and megyn will host it on the news channel, going a few minutes befor
said six times, he talked about the youtube video. now they're trying to blame the ryan-romney ticket for making this an issue. >> steve: of course, that's what they were talk being yesterday. so who won? cnn and cnbc did polls and mr. ryan was on top. cbs had one with some focus group. they felt that the vice president won. peggy nuland writes fort second time in two weeks, the democrat came out and defeated himself. in both cases, the republican was strong and the democrat somewhat disturbing. another way to say it is the old man tried it patronize the kid and the kid stood his ground. the old man pushed and the kid pushed back. >> brian: she did not mean that complimentary. >> gretchen: i actually think had is a debate that's going to percolate over a couple of days. when people go back and read and maybe see video and see this reaction, i think it may percolate over time where people will maybe change their opinion of exactly how it went. >> brian: it was -- >> gretchen: i think a lot of people -- i think it rubbed them the wrong way with the attitude. the headlines now. one month
five." now we want to talk about the "l" word. i don't mean love. obama campaign is throwing it around a lot. the word is "liar." democrats have been trying to paint mitt romney as one. but have they gone too far? dana, i go to you, because i remember working on campaigns and i'm sure you had an experience where people would outlight lie about what the president did. opponents would say something and i'd say they're lying. you couldn't call them a liar. they were fast and loose with the facts but this is the bottom really. this is a desperate attempt, don't you think? >> dana: as an official spokesperson of all the time i worked on capitol hill to the presidency. i never called anybody a liar on the record. i'm not speaking for anybody. i'm speaking for myself now. it's cynical and it talks down to somebody else. it's not working. i think it's working against them at this point. the law of diminishing return. they are experiencing it. after six months of trying to do nothing but saying he is such a liar. i heard of people who run on something to promise something. then they run for re-
are spear heading. mitt romney came out and was legitimately who he is. he didn't talk about the draconian cut. he played his role as a good manager, fixer. i think he was very likable and very rel spentful to the -- respectful to the president. a lot of women said wait a minute, he's not the monster that they said he was. that number is big for the romney campaign. >> dana: brian, when you look at these, if you look at ohio this morning, the poll that came out showing that romney is in a slight lead, which he has not been in ohio. do you think it's real? buenos aires >> brian: amazing a week ago they said take resources out of ohio and find another path to 270, which was highly unlikely. do i think it's real? anyone who criticizes the polls a week ago cannot embrace them this week because they may be more favorable. i'd say think. thought they nailed it today when they said this will be the election where the polls are going to be sidelined, as importance. i will say this, they show a trend. on top of all of, this i think bob beckel is right. bob, you said, saying all along that people do
in the shows. we will talk to experts on that debate performance. >> meanwhile mitt romney and paul ryan both in the all important swing state of ohio today. but president obama off the trail. he is hunkering down in virginia preparing for round 26 the debates. hoping to avoid another bad performance against romney. peter doocy live in d.c. with more. looking ahead to this town hall on tuesday. should be fun. >> it should be fun. and, dave, president obama admitted this week he had a bad night at the first debate and the general consensus was that he lost round one. but round 2 is on tuesday night and the president is taking steps to make sure he improves later on this afternoon. is he going to fly on down to williamsburg, virginia, about 150 miles away from the white house to get ready for that town hall style debate. is he going to be hidden from the public eye. he doesn't have any scheduled rallies or events today. 's not like he is finished campaigning because last night he did grab dinner are some contest winners in d.c. the pictures of that dinner were blasted out online last night. as
, what's the thinking on governor romney's bounce in the polls since that first big debate? >> they are very pumped here. the romney campaign is quite excited. they say there is more to come. they're building and talking about their ground game, grassroots, 4 million people have been contacted here in ohio alone. 4 1/2 million. that's more than a third of the overall population. the polls have ticked up. romney has closed the gap, leading in some of the national polls, within the mar i didn't know of error, and in most of the battle ground states, he's either closed the gap and in a couple of cases, gone up by a point or two. these are swings in the polls. he's eliminated any bounce the president had gotten from his convention with the own bounce he got last week. with the vice presidential debate this week and two more presidential debathes and generally both campaigns have recognized for the better part of the last year that this race was always going to hover at a close to even tie, 45-47 apiece and it will be decided probably in the last two weeks to ten days as that la
's essentially a tie right now. the data is so close. but romney was behind by a field goal, now he's kicked a field goal and we have a tie race going into the final weeks. >> what voter groups have moved in the last three weeks? are you talking about independents, are you talking about specific demographic groups? who has moved? >> well, one group that hasn't moved are the strong partisans. democrats and republicans who turn out are going to vote for their own nominee. the key statistic to watch with the partisans is enthusiasm. and the presidential debate clearly help the republican enthusiasm and hurt the democratic enthusiasm. on the other hand, the group to watch as far as the ballot test goes are the independents because they are much less lock into their particular pref presence at -- preference at the moment. your own poll showed that in virginia, according to wall street journal poll, independents moved a net seven points toward romney after the debate, and in ohio independents moved a net twelve points toward romney after the debate. those are big swings among independents, and it'
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